Sensei Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hello! Michelle Obama for president? I don't see her reading text from prompter.. Regardless she do it, awesome speech. (except "it's the greatest country in the world" etc) Best Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrmDoc Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Hello! Michelle Obama for president? I don't see her reading text from prompter.. Regardless she do it, awesome speech. (except "it's the greatest country in the world" etc) Best Regards! For all its faults, it's still a land of opportunity if one is willing to persevere its withering challenges. We're not a perfect nation, but I love America and, for me, it is still the greatest country in the world. Edited July 27, 2016 by DrmDoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 Love Universe, love humans, love your family.. then you can love your nation.. Not reverse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrmDoc Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Love Universe, love humans, love your family.. then you can love your nation.. Not reverse.. And that's what I love most about America, the right to chose who and what I love prioritized by me rather than dictated by others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It was a great speech. She's been an extremely gracious and effective first lady. I listen to her and can't believe smart isn't in fashion with conservatives. You can love a country for its people, history, and features, but I don't think you should ever feel that way about its government. You need to be emotionally detached in order to evaluate whether or not your government is still worth following, or needs to be changed. I always hated the slogan, "America: Love it or Leave it!" We really don't need unconditional love when it comes to how we're governed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 And that's what I love most about America, the right to chose who and what I love prioritized by me rather than dictated by others. If you love country over what I said first, you're nothing but nationalist... In XX century, middle world wars, fuhrer was telling his boys to kill their beloved dogs, after years of growing up, taking care of them from young child, etc. and these boys (called SS, nazi, gestapo, etc), killed their dog "friends", because they got "order".. That was for teach them to not be used to nobody. If you love your country more than you love your family you will shoot you wife and kids on order of fuhrer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrmDoc Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It was a great speech. She's been an extremely gracious and effective first lady. I listen to her and can't believe smart isn't in fashion with conservatives. You can love a country for its people, history, and features, but I don't think you should ever feel that way about its government. You need to be emotionally detached in order to evaluate whether or not your government is still worth following, or needs to be changed. I always hated the slogan, "America: Love it or Leave it!" We really don't need unconditional love when it comes to how we're governed. I agree; America is its opportunities, its freedoms, and its people--not its government. If you love country over what I said first, you're nothing but nationalist... In XX century, middle world wars, fuhrer was telling his boys to kill their beloved dogs, after years of growing up, taking care of them from young child, etc. and these boys (called SS, nazi, gestapo, etc), killed their dog "friends", because they got "order".. That was for teach them to not be used to nobody. If you love your country more than you love your family you will shoot you wife and kids on order of fuhrer? I love my country above other nations, not above its people--of which my family and I number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) It was a great speech! I can't wait to hear it again in four years at the next GOP convention. Edited July 28, 2016 by iNow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'd like to take her out for dinner....her old man is lucky. Seriously, she's been a super example of a First Lady.with a great common touch that transcends social barriers. A fine American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Their whole family, really. The manner with which they've faced such slash and burn categorical opposition with measured dignity, grace, and kindness. How they've pulled us out of chaos and led by example despite perpetual propaganda and blind hardened hatred, willful ignorance and overwhelming obtuseness. They've represented us well. They've served us well. They will be missed, and I'm thankful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 If you love country over what I said first, you're nothing but nationalist... In XX century, middle world wars, fuhrer was telling his boys to kill their beloved dogs, after years of growing up, taking care of them from young child, etc. and these boys (called SS, nazi, gestapo, etc), killed their dog "friends", because they got "order".. That was for teach them to not be used to nobody. If you love your country more than you love your family you will shoot you wife and kids on order of fuhrer? That looks to be an urban legend, they had some of the strongest animal cruelty laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Let's not gdwnze the thread with a discussion of nazi atrocities. Their whole family, really.The manner with which they've faced such slash and burn categorical opposition with measured dignity, grace, and kindness. How they've pulled us out of chaos and led by example despite perpetual propaganda and blind hardened hatred, willful ignorance and overwhelming obtuseness.They've represented us well.They've served us well.They will be missed, and I'm thankful. I wrote to him asked for him to consider a trip to the UK - we need a decent Prime Minister, we are long overdue a person of colour in the top job, we would love to have the coolest CEO on the planet, and he could get away from all the shit like Fox news. Now I realise my mistake - we should have gone double bubble - Barack for PM and head of government, Michelle for Queen and head of state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) .... Michelle for Queen and head of state. After this one. Elizabeth II R is peerless. Edited July 28, 2016 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten oz Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The Obamas have been exactly what the country needed. After 50yrs of administrations that ratcheted up partisanship in order to have surrogates to defend them during scandal the Obama admin has been as even and calm as any. Bush beat the drums of war, used fear as a firiegn policy platform, and used patriotism as a justification to enact policies that hurt this country. Bill Clinton was a liar who didn't seem to trust his own base and regulary pandered to his opposition often against the interests of his supporters. Reagan used coded racial rhetoric to slash our infrastructure, committed impeachable acts with his CIA-centric foriegn policy, and allowed the executive branch to nothing more than a mouthpiece for wealthy industrialists. Nixon was paraniod crook with delusions of purpose and self worth. Obama has successfully managed 2 full terms without scandal. While that should be a minimum expectation history proves it rare. In the face of strong oppisition Obama always chose to be the cooler head. Often even helping his strongest critics down off the ledge. While many feel fustrated that more progress wasn't acheived I think they forget where we were in 2008, what the limits of executive power are, and how sold out the opposition has been. Michelle has been a treffic first lady. From carpool karaoke to mom dance on Fallon and her multiple appears of shows like Ellan, Colbert, and etc she always showed a familiarity with popular culture at large that is often missing from govt officials. She wasn't handled by strategist who had to tell her what "normal" Americans liked. She doesn't use buzz words. She knows what people like because she is one of us. I think she would make a terrific Senator, Governor, and one day President however I would never wish that on her. She has already been attacked and needless criticized by the right for everything imaginable. She has endured enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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