blue89 Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 hi; I am trying to prove some allegements interdisciplinary ; but with extreme probability the interdisciplinary relation would be a new generation. because these interdisciplines would be mathematics - sociology I do not know which type of journal to choose (SCI or SSCI ) there exist some clues to make you better understand for rsponding. -->> in literature some formulas and techniques will probably be strict for any social journals -->> in contrary the first clue (above) big amount of references will be given from SSCI indexed journals. -->> principles , formulas and techniques will be coordinated under convenience of mathematics. Regards.
Strange Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 I imagine a paper that involves mathematics and sociology would be best suited to a sociology journal. After all, all sciences rely on mathematics so it would seem to be the sociology aspect that is more ... specialised / relevant. To put it another way: a sociology journal will be quite used to seeing mathematics in papers, but a mathematics journal might find sociology quite unusual.
blue89 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I imagine a paper that involves mathematics and sociology would be best suited to a sociology journal. After all, all sciences rely on mathematics so it would seem to be the sociology aspect that is more ... specialised / relevant. To put it another way: a sociology journal will be quite used to seeing mathematics in papers , but a mathematics journal might find sociology quite unusual. :-) I like you Strange but are you sure? and have you checked it carefully ,I have checked/read (already) some related articles from SSCI indexed journal's arrchives., and unfortunately I think SSCI indexed journal's referees can be very exhausted to evaluate it ,and almost I think sometimes that it can be impossibly difficult or seems like extremely improbable to evaluate it for SSCI indexed referees .. but again I may say that I am still very new at science ,the most clear point that I can give you about me is being highly demanding to create some solutions or some new scientific reports Edited July 28, 2016 by blue89
Strange Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 but are you sure? No. But presumably you have studied papers related to the topic(s) you are hoping to publish. What journals were they published in? That would seem a good way to find suitable places to submit.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 No. But presumably you have studied papers related to the topic(s) you are hoping to publish. What journals were they published in? That would seem a good way to find suitable places to submit. really as I said ,this will be an interdisciplinary article , therefore this means there will exist refernces from two disciplines. May I ask something; you have said that you had almost no formal degree (except BSC) but in contrast general ideas ,I saw that you expressed you are/were able to earn good amount of money. ok, thats very nice. your some persona characters might be similar to mines. (it would be better you to look my profile to understand well). I think you have writte some academic materials (papers) ,yes we live the real life, and this century is modern in my opinion ,this means that we already have to study at science even if we be intelligent. of course these are my thoughts.and these are convenient in relevancy each them. but again I would ask you to confirm it have you written any academic papers??
Klaynos Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I imagine a paper that involves mathematics and sociology would be best suited to a sociology journal. After all, all sciences rely on mathematics so it would seem to be the sociology aspect that is more ... specialised / relevant. To put it another way: a sociology journal will be quite used to seeing mathematics in papers, but a mathematics journal might find sociology quite unusual. I'd agree with this. Pick a journal and poke through the most recent articles look for some maths. You know that there are loads of interdisciplinary fields in modern science right? That in itself isn't terrible new or interesting.
ajb Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 As ever... look at the journals that the papers you are citing appear in. Pick a journal from that list - look for journals that publish similar things with a similar level of maths and sociology. My feelings are that as an applied work a journal in sociology maybe best.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) As ever... :-) this expression is sympathic just as ever.. ok. follow below please. (both you & Klaynos and strange) 1) Strange's idea After all, all sciences rely on mathematics so it would seem to be the sociology aspect that is more ... specialised / relevant. 2) Klaynos.. I'd agree with this... 3) ajb .. My feelings are that as an applied work a journal in sociology maybe best. I have been a bit surprised really. because I believed that any mathematical/computational journal would be happy for such studies. (this will be probably the newest sample in my opinion,but of course I have not combed enough all related arrchives.) in this case ,I would remind this to you as to take the most clear responding from you. do you think that any suitable journal which is concentrated on SOCIOLOGY will understand theese key words explanations and in use: " closed /open interval , continuoum , complex functions , laurent series , some theories (e.g. bolzano weierstrass , eisenstein criterion, galois groups , transcendant , ...etc" (Note please I don't mean that all these would be used , but it is probable,and these are templates.) **** a reply to klaynos (this question contain valuable thoughts/details in my opinion ,especially if I think true.) Klaynos says ; .. A)You know that there are loads of interdisciplinary fields in modern science right?B)That in itself isn't terrible new or interesting. A) yes of course ,and I also believe that this would be the best! (as expressed)..but probably I had spoken with inconvenient type of scientist at a time,he was associate professor at sociology. and he advised some difficult thinks to do , he said "you should read some books at first before beginning (via showing some thick books. he said that it would be impossible to take acceptance without doing this before beginning!..,(I have not said him this one , but really I thought he had not had enough infıormation about my personality ..for insance ,I am giving high importance to CULTURE (this is one of the most important definition/value for me!.. Hımm ,furthermore I understand the sociologic articles ,this are not so difficult to understand ..as a result I have not understood clearly what he implied (!).) B) I expressed that this would be the best type of academic study in my belief. and I do not think that I am alone. although Leonardo Da Vinci ,Newton ,Tesla ,... others did do this (but as you see these scientists are respective .) I do not think that I am alone just at this century. hımm what is my opinion?? I believe / think ,these scientists were studying enough hard (and also very hard at real) . and of course I surely believe that this would be required.but we should not miss an important point : we also need to have ability to think perspective (maybe a bit or quite different in comparison other scientists) thanks up to now. Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Strange Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 really as I said ,this will be an interdisciplinary article , therefore this means there will exist refernces from two disciplines. So what. That is not unusual. It is pretty common nowadays, in most fields. have you written any academic papers?? No.
Klaynos Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 If the expert in the field suggested you didn't have a good enough background to understand how your idea fits in and you should do some background reading I would recommend following that advice. Your last post raised done significant flags for me, including ignoring experts, thinking you're special, comparisons to past scientists.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) have you written any academic paper... No. this was important question ,and will be recorded in my mind. dear strange I mean the experience is very important. but of course I have not had enough information to speak about your experience. I am generally unable to follow all member's comments ,I mainly concentrate on the interpretations that are being communicated with me.do not forget please every people are very valuable in my opinion...(there is no high relevancy ,this is only one of my principles.) all the best If the [expert in the field suggested] you didn't have a good enough background to understand how your idea fits in and you should do some background reading I would recommend following that advice. read please your comment above without seeing the part given in paranthesis and in bold at first. then ,yes this is definitely correct!..I support it ,and I definitely agree. but if you read as normal , I would say repeatedly that he did not know all qualifications and/or specifications about my personality. and I couldn't understand clearly your last sentence, could you clarify what was your idea ,for instance did you aggree my last expression.(did you believe that I were insuficient. (I am already pertaining to criticism))? thanks. renew please your page. sorry for some faults. I am a bit careless !!: TO EDITORS & MODERATORS! .. I recommend that it be a requirement for evry member who enrolled to this forum that they show their all degrees and degree programmes. or at least their interest includind evidence(s) if they have any experince in the past of their life. unfortunately I am being unable to reach the best information about their knowledge or statue at science when I check their profile. this does not mean any problem. but I believe this would make it easier to better take assistance and to communicate for each us Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Klaynos Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 The expert was basing his view on some evidence you presented. It's true he won't have known everything about you, but your personality doesn't really matter, the quality of the work does. I've read almost every post you've made in this forum and it is my view that you're unlikely to get published without many years full time study.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) I've read almost every post you've made in this forum and it is my view that you're unlikely to get published without many years full time study. THANKS FOR YOUR CRITIQUE!.. could you specifiy the problem please. ( I have not understood clearly what the exact problem was) and of course I continue researches. (or what was the problem related with...(this two last questions are very important for me!..) and I am checking your profile. Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Klaynos Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I would suggest you currently do not have the background knowledge of the subject or processes to achieve publication. ajb suggested a while ago that you sight the mentorship of an academic and provided your manuscript to them you rejected this out of hand which is not a good sign.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 !!: high impotance I would suggest you currently do not have the background knowledge of the subject or processes to achieve publication. ajb suggested a while ago that you sight the mentorship of an academic and provided your manuscript to them you rejected this out of hand which is not a good sign. no , this would be (defintely) not true. I had sent only an abstract to merely a journal and only for checking the convenience to determine for suitability to that journal. that journal was ecancermedicalscience and as it clear to understand , this journal is specified for almost only for medicine/medical reseaches. and I remember I had said at that time that they had not refused my abstract. the seniort editor had only said that they had no protocol to publish projects outlines. she also advised me to contact for the journals whiches have relevant protocols!.. (otherwise I have not taken refugee!..) YOUR CRITIQUE HAS NOT BEEN ACCEPTED!.. I request you to give more details if you have any else.
Klaynos Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 It is my view that your last post supports my position. Sending abstracts to journal editors I'd certainly not the done thing in any of the fields I'm most familiar with
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) HIMM , I DO NOT (I AM UNABLE TO) SHARE EVERY ACADEMIC STUDIES AT FORUM UNTIL I TAKE COPYRIGHTS... this might cause this idea..but please do not hesitate if you have any else critiques or detail. when I am criticising me by my own ; I think these may cause matters for a while. -->> I still do not know LaTeX and wolfram -->> I am abit careless.. Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Strange Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) you should read some books at first before beginning This seems like very good advice. Also, as others have said, read a lot of the papers published in the same area(s). You seem to think that your character means you do not have to study. I think this is a very dangerous attitude. I have interviewed, trained and worked with a very large number of engineers. The ones who had the greatest confidence in their abilities were the worst engineers. Those who doubted their abilities and wanted learn from others were the best engineers. HIMM , I DO NOT (I AM UNABLE TO) SHARE EVERY ACADEMIC STUDIES AT FORUM UNTIL I TAKE COPYRIGHTS... Copyright will not give any protection to your ideas. Also, you get copyright simply by publishing something. So put it on a blog. You will have copyright. Edited July 29, 2016 by Strange
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 Dear Klaynos ; unfortunately I have not determined/understood the problem you implied. probably you are too busy to give more details .. thanks.. regards.
Strange Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 In fact, if you publish something on this forum you will have copyright. (See rule 5)
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) Strangeee :-) ,I liked your style at last comment. intimately you also have no enough information aboy my personality (but of course studies in meaning via using this word,I think I have read many books and have some experiences.) (but you are right,probably I forgot to express) strange :-) ... In fact, if you publish something on this forum you will have copyright. (See rule 5) strange :-) is this a teasing or joke ? :-) ok checking the rules .. Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Strange Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 intimately you also have no enough information aboy my personality I don't see why your personality is relevant. All that is important (when it comes to publishing a paper) is the quality of your research and the quality of the writing. is this a teasing or joke ? I have worked in intellectual property for so many years that I don't think I am capable of making a joke about it. all content is copyrighted by its respective author, including all private messages, posts, and comments http://www.scienceforums.net/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) 1) I don't see why your personality is relevant. it is quite important , for instance ,if you have hardworking type of personality ,then it would be likely to think that you will catch some accomplishments. but I am sure hardworking personality will not be enough to catch great accomplishments!..follow if you have hardworking + intelligent personality ,then yes it would be likely to think that you will be able to catch great successes!. there will be another qualifications more, and may be each separately too or together. (if you would like to see mines ,I sugest that you check my profile) I have worked in intellectual property for so many years that I don't think I am capable of making a joke about it. yes , I certainly appreciate it!..let us to learn something useful about your experiences at another thread(s). it would be very nice and I will intimately be thankfull to you if you share or if you have already shared (I will check). all content is copyrighted by its respective author, including all private messages, posts, and comments I meant that this cannot give authotrs the official copyrights (like this; if you publish your any article to this forum as its firs time (in assumption that it had not been published at any journal!.. then ,in my opinion this will not prove us that this author have written it by his/her own (offician copyrights) or it will nt prove us her/his real knowledge. (but academicians will care such academic experiences ,I am sure.especially if you would like to work at any university as academician there RENEW YOU PAGE PLEASE ,THERE WERE SOME TECHNICAL ERRORS!. AND HAVE BEEN PUT IN ORDER. Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
Strange Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 it is quite important , for instance ,if you have hardworking type of personality ,then it would be likely to think that you will catch some accomplishments. but I am sure hardworking personality will not be enough to catch great accomplishments!..follow Yes, you might have to work hard to produce a paper that is worth publishing. But just being someone who works hard is not enough. And part of that hard work must include reading all the standard books and papers published previously. I meant that this cannot give authotrs the official copyrights (like this; if you publish your any article to this forum as its firs time (in assumption that it had not been published at any journal!.. There is no such thing as "official copyright". If you publish something, then you own the copyright. (OK. The USA has a system where you can register copyright with the Library of Congress, but I think that is almost unique in the world.) in my opinion this will not prove us that this author have written it by his/her own (offician copyrights) That is a different issue: plagiarism. Most universities (and I guess publishers) now use software to detect plagiarism. If you think your copyright work has been copied, then you can take action to stop it. That is why copyright law exists. You do not need any "official" copyright for this. (But, as above, it can make it easier in the USA.) or it will nt prove us her/his real knowledge Which is why journals use peer review: to check the quality of the work.
blue89 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) 1)Yes, you might have to work hard to produce a paper that is worth publishing. But just being someone who works hard is not enough. And part of that hard work must include reading all the standard books and papers published previously. 2) There is no such thing as "official copyright". If you publish something, then you own the copyright. 3)(OK. The USA has a system where you can register copyright with the Library of Congress, but I think that is almost unique in the world.) 4)That is a different issue: plagiarism. Most universities (and I guess publishers) now use software to detect plagiarism. If you think your copyright work has been copied, then you can take action to stop it. That is why copyright law exists. You do not need any "official" copyright for this. (But, as above, it can make it easier in the USA.) *** * *** Which is why journals use peer review: to check the quality of the work.*** * *** sorry today is friday ,and I was at mosque according to our religion's offer. (sorry for delay) it seems you are trying to use some objective sentences..but as I said I do not know everything about this.and be aware that from all of your posts that I have read; I understand or I think that you allege you have genuine. (as I do).I would inform you that if you trust/confirm it, your interperatations will be quite important. ok. I have no enough information to discuss about you just now!..but because I think I am honest I will care it.I am giving some other expressions about the sebtences numbered above. 1) I think I have already explained and clarified this one effectively. and do not forget please ,you will never be able to learn everything. 2) this is also understandable. 3) well , could you let us learn some about this option , I do not know almost anything about this one. 4) it would be good to express this one , really I do not think that I will be complaining via using law process ,even if I detect plagiarism have been done from my papers (in assumption the retraction be occured/existed/ensured). but really I have anxiety whether it might prevent me to publish my own original paper because of sharing some parts of its content before submisson.you know that if any journal detect any paper was already published by someone before, they will normally not accept it. and this is quite logical. and another question is how to prove the reality and probably it will not be so easy to reach our target in such unexpected cases. for instance I do not know whether the law conditions will find acceptable to show our content of e-mail as a proof in assumption it be occured ,note :it is implied the content of literature will be the first time to be mentioned in (that) e-mail ,there. ) Edited July 29, 2016 by blue89
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