what about NASA (?)

[blue89]

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Dear Scientists;

 

I had sent a letter to NASA far before. and I remember it had been responded very quickly in comparison other associations.(they responded in 20 hours.)

I will share their reply as same as reached. (only one difference : my name will be changed with my nickname.) and I see it contains a probability of getting a job there (but of course there will be responsibilty to search, it is clear to understand.)

I have not responded this letter yet. but I do not know the real probabilities and when I looked to the links given in their e-mail ,unfortunately it was too wide. I am too busy with academic studies (and I already still continue contacting with harvard). and stressed & depressed

I will be highly demanding to leave from turkey if I have any option to study and NASA.

if you think that you have information about this association and if you are willing to help me ;

I request you to read this letter (taken from NASA) below and check my profile and express your opinion what options I might have.

I would clarify a detail in addition that might be useful : I think I have highly creative personality ,I will be able to create good & interesting scientific projects (the goals are also interesting at reality).but the main thing that I I need now is economic option and safety .and of course I think this would be possible via getting job at NASA at the same time to continue researches.if someone would like to critique something belonging me ,of course I will be thankfull ,but they should make me understand that their critique was logical/reasonable with enough clearance , in other cases avoid to do this please. I would remind you that blue does not share his all experiences and studies at unofficial websites!.)

 

 

 

 

the letter that had been taken from NASA (far before : over 4 months before)

 

 

blue89,

 

Thank you for your message to NASA.

We suggest that you visit the NASA Jobs site at http://nasajobs.nasa.gov for career related information. This site provides a listing of specific career opportunities available at NASA with details of how to apply for those positions. For information about various NASA careers and to learn about the people who work at NASA, you may want to look at http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/postsecondary/career/index.html to learn about the people who work at NASA.

To apply for internships, fellowships and scholarships please visit the One Stop Shopping Initiative (OSSI) Student Online Application site at https://intern.nasa.gov. This is a NASA-wide system for the recruitment, application, selection and career development of undergraduate and graduate students primarily in science, technology, engineering and mathematics disciplines. Opportunities for students in other disciplines are available. Information for international students can be found on the NASA Intern and Fellow Opportunities for International Students page at https://intern.nasa.gov/content/internship-information/one-stop-shopping-initiative-ossi-student-online-a/non-us-opportunities/index.html.

The U.S. State Department maintains the following sites for foreign students, which may be of assistance to you.
· http://educationusa.state.gov/
· http://exchanges.state.gov/non-us/program/global-connections-and-exchange.
· http://j1visa.state.gov
· https://alumni.state.gov
· http://exchanges.state.gov/non-us/program/fulbright-regional-network-applied-research-nexus-program

The U.S. Department of Education also maintains the following sites, which may also be of assistance:
· http://www2.ed.gov/about/inits/ed/internationaled/bilateral.html
· http://www2.ed.gov/about/inits/ed/internationaled/programs-offices.html
· http://www2.ed.gov/about/inits/ed/internationaled/programs-topics.html
· http://www2.ed.gov/about/inits/ed/internationaled/resources.html

We encourage you to visit http://www.nasa.gov for the latest NASA news and information. NASA invites you to consider using one or more of the following easy and convenient communications tools for receiving NASA Updates on the exciting work NASA is doing.

Receive NASA updates by RSS at http://www.nasa.gov/rss/index.html
Follow NASA Twitter at https://twitter.com/NASA
Follow NASA Education Twitter at https://twitter.com/nasaedu

We hope that you enjoy exploring the sites that are listed above and find the information that you are looking for. We appreciate your interest in NASA.

Sincerely,
NASA Education

 

 

 

blue

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

It looks like they sent you a standard reply... which is not suprising.

 

I don't know much about jobs as such with NASA, but I know they offer a few postdoc fellowships every year - I looked at one to two in the past but they were never really in my field.

[blue89]

It looks like they sent you a standard reply... which is not suprising.

 

...

 

estimable ajb;

 

thanks for your comment!..

 

okay I have not already alleged this (underlined word ) :-)

 

but I am looking for / searching probabilities/options.

 

my e-mail also was in a standard shape.

I request scientists to share their experiences especially who have searched and know something about NASA.

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/jobs.html (jobs at Goddard)

 

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/jobs-internships/index.html (jobs at Ames)

 

https://npp.usra.edu/ (Nasa posdoc program)

 

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http://uzay.tubitak.gov.tr/en The 'Turkish Nasa'

Edited July 30, 2016 by ajb

[blue89]

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/jobs.html (jobs at Goddard)

 

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/jobs-internships/index.html (jobs at Ames)

 

https://npp.usra.edu/ (Nasa posdoc program)

 

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http://uzay.tubitak.gov.tr/en The 'Turkish Nasa'

 

 

thanks for this post ;

 

may I ask that whether you have any information or what is your own idea.

 

" I am generally able or willing to create scientific projects that are most likely containing interferences to other disciplines (using some new criteria,but this means -->> observations&experiments will be required or with extreme probability will be compulsory to see the results, do you think that they migh provide me any good option "

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

I would imagine that most scientific/engineering jobs at NASA are very well structured and part of ongoing projects. The postdoc fellowships may have more scope.

 

Either way, telling them something and showing them evidence for something are different. If you want people to beleive that you can create scientific questions and answer then then you will need evidence of this - for example a PhD and a thesis that shows this.

[blue89]

1) I would imagine that most scientific/engineering jobs at NASA are very well structured and part of ongoing projects. The postdoc fellowships may have more scope.

 

2) Either way, telling them something and showing them evidence for something are different. If you want people to beleive that you can create scientific questions and answer then then you will need evidence of this - for example a PhD and a thesis that shows this.

 

I would start to answer with the second one.

 

2) I think we cannot say this (we cannot be sure that if someone has had PhD degree (or even if it is higher!..) it would provide us the evidence of quality everytime.

 

because I see people are generally missing shortly these details ;

 

-->> the quality of education is not as same as at everywhere.

-->> the quality of personal characters is also not as same as among everyone.

-->> some people may learn something without taking courses (but this is eligible generally after BSC level or after high school)

 

here is what can show the quality (in my mind)

 

-->> your recorded researces (certified) and how much they were usful &/ efficacious

 

1) I do not believe that someones believe are the best ,everytime the better one will be available and be sure that there exist too many bright things waiting us to be explored.

 

but of course I respect your studies at pure mathematics. yes ,we may accept them as an example show your knowledge or quality about your researches ,but these are at pure mathematics and unfortunately ; I do not believe that pure mathematicians are doing so great accomplishments. (this does not mean they are not studying hard , of course they study hard!..these two expression are different.

 

look what was great things ;

 

-->> exploring the whole treatment of cancer ,smallpox, AIDS

 

-->> interefering t-time parameter

 

-->> to explore lightening technology or ..etc.

note : dear ajb ; I have not checked all of your papers , I only looked a few.I respect and apologise if there exist any contrast to the content of interpretation.

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

This thread is not about me - it is about jobs at NASA and how you (and anyone else) can apply for them. My point is that if you apply, be careful not to claim things that you cannot prove. They simply won't beleive you and you will not stand a chance of getting the job. Answer the questions on the application forms and show evidences.

[blue89]

My point is that if you apply, be careful not to claim things that you cannot prove. Answer the questions on the application forms and show evidences.

 

ok. thanks ...

yes you are right. this is general route.I hope that anyone who thinks that he had studied effectively at pure mathematics (even if it was informal) will show evidences easily.

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

... will show evidences easily.

This depends on what they ask!

[blue89]

yes,sure!..

 

 

ajb..I am sending you some context that I believe would be useful for all matehamaticians. if you agree that it was logical , ok ,I will be thankfull for your

gladness.I saw you have tried many times to respond my questions.note please : I believe that most of pure mathematicians are dedicated studying at science ,but as I said before times repeat and repeatedly , surely I think that there exist some interesting unclarified details and cause such strange results.

 

I will write this as a second time again although I know that interpretation of owner @Strange nickname was not false

 

the more you work ,the more (you should) gain money.

 

Let think something about my message that I will have sent it in 10 minutes.

 

am I right ,or not(???)

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

There is no direct link between how hard you work and earnings. If you want money don't apply for a job at NASA - go work for a bank or similar.

[blue89]

please do not write any answer before redaing that message!..

 

(after you read ,I would ask you this "did you see the hypothesis in it, and what is your opinion. (do not explain wholly if you wanti, say "yes thats right ",or "yes it is logical "or " no it seems illogical"

 

I already know the message above or any intelligent person will already have that simple information above...

 

 

my Goal is not earning so much money at reality...

 

I am using mother teresa's sentences at this subject.

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[ajb]

I am using mother teresa's sentences at this subject.

Mmmmmmmm.... I am not sure that Mother Teresa is an example anyone wants to follow. But that is another topic.

[blue89]

Mmmmmmmm.... I am not sure that Mother Teresa is an example anyone wants to follow. But that is another topic.

 

ok.

ajb ..

 

do you think that it would be possible for me to take patent ,if I show some good explanations/evidences (e.g.scientific formulas / theories) in use according to your question (in private) at the background?

 

or in assumption of existence this information.

 

what would be the best to do?

 

I request you not to forget that it would be almost impossible speaking about the results before observations/experiments.

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[Strange]

do you think that it would be possible for me to take patent ,if I show some good explanations/evidences (scientific formulas / theories) in use according to your question at the background?

 

 

You want to patent Mother Teresa?

 

[blue89]

welcome strange :-)

 

really I erased that comment.

 

but if you open your private message I can send you in private.

 

yes this comment was both entertaining and highly logical in my mind. (not taking patent ,the comment's own was logical, it would be suitable to write article.)

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89

[swansont]

the more you work ,the more (you should) gain money.

 

 

!

Moderator Note

If you wish to discuss this, start a new thread.

[blue89]

ok. ,this is the end of writing at this thread /for me) ,I will definitely not write anything there.

 

you can ( also ) lock this topic.

 

blue

Edited July 30, 2016 by blue89