Tired, 'pseudosleeping' on train

[Function]

Hello everyone

 

It happens quite often that, since I wake up at 5 a.m., I tend to rest my eyelids on my train rides.

I'm never really asleep. I hear everything that happens around me and I am aware of my whereabouts.

 

However, it so happens that certain dream-like thoughts tend to come up in my mind, and when 'in' these thoughts, I tend to build further on them and believe them. I cannot give an example straightaway (perhaps tomorrow, if it happens and I remember it in the evening).

These thoughts can come up really fast, after even 1 or 2 minutes of eye closure and they are comparable with a state of sleep in which you are still in a more conscious state and able to wake up on your own command, starting to have strange, illogical, abstract thoughts.

It's like dreaming without image, and with the possibility of exiting it consciously: when these thoughts happen, I can fully awarely 'wake up' (although this term would not be correct since I'm strictly seen not sleeping) and think "the hell were you thinking, stop it".

 

Is this a genuine sleep stadium? What causes these abstract, illogical thoughts? Is it possible and logical for this stadium to happen much faster on a moving vehicle when being really tired than in your own bed? And why doesn't this stadium evolve into a real sleep, contrary to sleeping in my own bed?

 

I know it's a bit vaguely described, but I sincerely hope others here experience comparable things when 'sleeping' in vehicles. I know of at least one other person. Out of one (he's the only one I happend to talk about it with).

 

Thanks to anyone acknowledging this phenomenon and doing an effort in describing and explaining it.

 

-F.

Edited August 25, 2016 by Function

[dimreepr]

I leave my radio on most nights (BBC world service), as my sleep patterns are erratic, but I often find they combine into a pseudo sleep state.

[DrmDoc]

Thanks to anyone acknowledging this phenomenon and doing an effort in describing and explaining it.

 

-F.

 

Called hypnagogia, your experience is common and usually occurs as we transition into sleep or from sleep to wakefulness. This experience can involve both sound and visual imagery that incorporates sensory elements of our sleep or resting environment. Elements such as a clock alarm, door knocks, and hearing someone calling are examples of sleep environment influences that frequently become part of what an individual at rest perceives amid hypnagogic experiences.

[Function]

 

Called hypnagogia, your experience is common and usually occurs as we transition into sleep or from sleep to wakefulness. This experience can involve both sound and visual imagery that incorporates sensory elements of our sleep or resting environment. Elements such as a clock alarm, door knocks, and hearing someone calling are examples of sleep environment influences that frequently become part of what an individual at rest perceives amid hypnagogic experiences.

 

Ah, wunderbar! Thanks McDreamy

[zapatos]

Hello everyone

 

It happens quite often that, since I wake up at 5 a.m., I tend to rest my eyelids on my train rides.

I'm never really asleep. I hear everything that happens around me and I am aware of my whereabouts.

 

However, it so happens that certain dream-like thoughts tend to come up in my mind, and when 'in' these thoughts, I tend to build further on them and believe them. I cannot give an example straightaway (perhaps tomorrow, if it happens and I remember it in the evening).

These thoughts can come up really fast, after even 1 or 2 minutes of eye closure and they are comparable with a state of sleep in which you are still in a more conscious state and able to wake up on your own command, starting to have strange, illogical, abstract thoughts.

It's like dreaming without image, and with the possibility of exiting it consciously: when these thoughts happen, I can fully awarely 'wake up' (although this term would not be correct since I'm strictly seen not sleeping) and think "the hell were you thinking, stop it".

 

Is this a genuine sleep stadium? What causes these abstract, illogical thoughts? Is it possible and logical for this stadium to happen much faster on a moving vehicle when being really tired than in your own bed? And why doesn't this stadium evolve into a real sleep, contrary to sleeping in my own bed?

 

I know it's a bit vaguely described, but I sincerely hope others here experience comparable things when 'sleeping' in vehicles. I know of at least one other person. Out of one (he's the only one I happend to talk about it with).

 

Thanks to anyone acknowledging this phenomenon and doing an effort in describing and explaining it.

 

-F.

 

I experience essentially the same whether prior to sleep in bed or often in airplanes. In airplanes where I never seem to actually fall asleep, I still find it a very restful state, similar to actually sleeping.

[kisai]

I experience the same cognitive shift as well with my poor sleep habits.. Let us say I'm watching a movie in bed and I'm nodding off. I will have a thought about the movie, or what the characters are about to do next, and fabricate something that is imaginative but always false. For instance, if it is Lord of the Rings and the characters are in the Mines of Moira, I might shut my eyes and suddenly imagine that they are going downstairs to check rental prices in the goblin warrens. And it is a thought, not a whole tableau of visual fantasy.