fredreload Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 So this is an equation I found with interesting properties. Pretty much x+y=z and x-y=z are linear equations of 2 equations 2 unknowns. If you solve for this equation you get x=z and y=0. Now I haven't got a chart for x-y=z, Google shows the x+y=z chart but not the other one, if you have it please show me. Now for z=(x+y)/(x-y) it generates an interesting chart in google, same goes for z=(x-y)/(x+y). I'm not sure if they are off by 180 degrees or simply upside down. Now when you multiple the two together you get z^2=1 which is z=1 not z=0. This seems to be an interesting property and if someone can give me an explanation on this it would be cool. To sum up: 1. Get me a chart for x-y=z 2. z=(x+y)/(x-y) and z=(x-y)/(x+y) looks interesting, when you multiply them together you get z=1, why is that and what does that mean?
Sensei Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Isn't (x+y)/(x-y)*(x-y)/(x+y) equal to LaTeX: [math]\frac{x+y}{x-y}*\frac{x-y}{x+y}[/math] ?? Maybe some parenthesis missing somewhere? Which is equal to: [math]\frac{x+y}{x+y}*\frac{x-y}{x-y}[/math] [math]1*1[/math] [math]1[/math] (as long as no division by 0) f.e. if I make OpenOffice SpreadSheet with A1=1000 B1=500 and C1=(A1+B1)/(A1-B1)*(A1-B1)/(A1+B1) Result is 1. If I make A1=B1=1000 f.e. OpenOffice complains there is division by 0. Now for z=(x+y)/(x-y) it generates an interesting chart in google, same goes for z=(x-y)/(x+y). I'm not sure if they are off by 180 degrees or simply upside down. They will be z'=1/z or z'=z-1 Edited September 6, 2016 by Sensei
fredreload Posted September 6, 2016 Author Posted September 6, 2016 They will be z'=1/z or z'=z-1 Hi Sensei, can you clarify on this one? Did you take the derivative or something? I know my equation becomes z=1, I'm just not sure why that is the case. If you take a look at z=(x+y)/(x-y) it looks like a spiral, so how come a spiral multiplies by another spiral becomes z=1? Also get me a chart on x-y=z, many thanks
elfmotat Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) I know my equation becomes z=1, I'm just not sure why that is the case. If you take a look at z=(x+y)/(x-y) it looks like a spiral, so how come a spiral multiplies by another spiral becomes z=1? Because (A/B)*(B/A) = (A/A)*(B/B) = 1*1 = 1. Try it out with numbers. If you have [(x+y)/(x-y)]*[(x-y)/(x+y)], pick random numbers for x and y. For example, x=6 and y=2: [(6+2)/(6-2)]*[(6-2)/(6+2)] = [8/4]*[4/8] = [2]*[1/2] = 1. Also get me a chart on x-y=z, many thanks https://www.google.com/search?q=z%3Dx-y+plot&rlz=1CASMAE_enUS631US631&oq=z%3Dx-y+plot Edited September 6, 2016 by elfmotat
mathematic Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 With different parentheses it could mean [latex] (\frac{x+y}{x-y})^2[/latex]
elfmotat Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 With different parentheses it could mean [latex] (\frac{x+y}{x-y})^2[/latex] But it's clear from the context of his post that that's not what he meant. 1
fredreload Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) With different parentheses it could mean [latex] (\frac{x+y}{x-y})^2[/latex] It looks really cool, looks like a portal or some sort, got any explanation for it ? On another note my equation becomes (x+y)(x-y) on top and bottom, which looks like a saddle Edited September 7, 2016 by fredreload
deesuwalka Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) [latex] \frac{x+y}{x-y}\times\frac{x-y}{x+y} [/latex] [latex] =\frac{\not x+\not y}{\not x-\not y}\times\frac{\not x-\not y}{\not x+\not y} [/latex] [latex]= 1 \times 1[/latex] [latex]= 1 [/latex] Edited October 24, 2016 by deesuwalka
Country Boy Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 [latex] \frac{x+y}{x-y}\times\frac{x-y}{x+y} [/latex] [latex] =\frac{\not x+\not y}{\not x-\not y}\times\frac{\not x-\not y}{\not x+\not y} [/latex] [latex]= 1 \times 1[/latex] [latex]= 1 [/latex] Provided neither x- y nor x+ y is equal to 0. That is, provided neither x= y nor x= -y. If x= y or x= -y, the expression is not defined.
mathematic Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 It looks really cool, looks like a portal or some sort, got any explanation for it ? On another note my equation becomes (x+y)(x-y) on top and bottom, which looks like a saddle [latex](x+y)/(x-y)*(x-y)/(x+y) could = (x+y)/[(x-y)^2/(x+y)][/latex]
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